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Author Topic: Our late Room Mama, eclectic  (Read 3697 times)

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Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« on: September 02, 2019, 07:55:05 PM »
Last Monday, August 26, 2019, our friend and the site's Room Mama, passed to the Summerlands. eclectic was severely ill for several months and her loss is a comfort as well as a sadness.

eclectic is remembered as a fierce friend; a wonderful DJ; a wild, pagan heart with many totem animals including a panther and a wolf; the voice of humble common sense; a dummer; a Freewoman, a submissive soul; and ceaseless affection and love. She is a beloved sister gone too soon. eclectic will always remain at the core of this site, chat, and in our hearts.

Thank you all to those that remember her with love. She will always be one of the founding members of The Garden's chat room and one of the biggest believers in the education paired with love that we offer in The Garden.

If you so feel the need, eclectic would appreciate donations to your local humane society, where she found her two darling cats, Loki and Chaos.

Please use this space to share your memories of eclectic, if you so wish.

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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2019, 09:24:37 AM »
Vixen   2/09 16:30   Master HidoiKaeru good evening Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:31   i see the word has gotten out over at numeric chat about what has happened
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:33   Master HidoiKaeru I can see your chat getting an influx of people as time goes on. I'm here to beat the crowd, as it were

Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:34   CountTom it has grown some yes......and hopefully continue to grow....tho i am not concerned with it ever getting as large as other places
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:35   and i am hoping that we do get a large crowd.....i think its important for people to remember and reminice
   
esmay   2/09 16:35   May i ask who Wwe are remembering?.... or is that a secret for now?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:36   esmay we lost eclectic
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:36   Vixen E/everyone has off days. I find the best way to deal with them is to ride them out as best you can. Of course if it's an ongoing problem then seek more professional advice
   
esmay   2/09 16:36   velvetgirl Master HidoiKaeru i am sorry for your loss. i didn't really know her, but i know many did.
   
Vixen   2/09 16:37   CountTom I have professional help.. but you asked.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:37   esmay as you know she was our homes official mama.....she was a very strong believer of this place being created
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:38   Vixen I know I did. And, Alyth of course this means nothing coming from a stranger, well done for recognising the problems you have amd taking steos to remedy them. Not enough people take their mental health seriously
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:38   but she touched many others as well in her travels and chats
   
Vixen   2/09 16:38   I need to go sleep soon anyhow if I may. I wish E/everyone a good night.
   
esmay   2/09 16:38   Vixen i hope you have a good night.
   
Vixen   2/09 16:38   CountTom thank you Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:38   Vixen be well and rest well please
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:39   She was the official mama here? That doesn't surprise Me one bit, 'mama bear' was her to a T
   
Vixen   2/09 16:39   Master HidoiKaeru you too and thank you Sir, *hugs esmay*
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:39   CountTom yes she was.......this became her home from the beginning......and she is a huge loss
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:41   notices kissa is under a chair and doing things?.......lets my mind wander.......hmmmmmmm
   
kissa   2/09 16:41   i'm just working quietly
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:42   kissa under a chair?
   
kissa   2/09 16:42   a quiet spot
   
esmay   2/09 16:42   kissa lol
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:42   kissa mhmmmmm....whatever you say
   
esmay   2/09 16:42   kissa   
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:45   Master HidoiKaeru I can already see how keenly she's missed here, and I've only spoken to a few so far. You've truly lost one of the best you could ever have
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:45   CountTom without a doubt
   
esmay   2/09 16:45   Master HidoiKaeru i have to go for now, may i please be excused?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:45   esmay you may
   
esmay   2/09 16:46   Master HidoiKaeru Thank you, Sir.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:46   Greetings Traveler100t
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:48   I have been trying to reach out to find those who did know her to get people together to honor her.....she would most likely yell at me for doing this if she could
   
devilkitty   2/09 16:49   i had known her from 321
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:49   You know you'd never hear the end of it, she'd have your ear for days. But I think secretly she'd be touched
   
kissa   2/09 16:49   Yes, she would have.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:50   oh she would have given me grief for days as she often did when i did things but in the long run she always appreciated it
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:51   I hope you'll get a good turnout, she deserves one after the sheer number of lives she touchee
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:51   if i had a picture of her and Loki and chaos i would post it
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:53   and if i had and posted a pic she would yell at me for doing it
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:53   Maybe you'll get lucky and someone will have one they can donate. It'd be a fitting tribute
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:53   greetings LouLou and welcome
   
devilkitty   2/09 16:54   LouLou ❤️ welcome back hun
   
LouLou   2/09 16:54   Master HidoiKaeru thankyou it’s been a while since I have been here
   
LouLou   2/09 16:54   devilkitty awww mah kitty
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:54   CountTom you spoke earlier of accounts slowly going away after a period of not being used.....hers will become permanently here
   
devilkitty   2/09 16:55   LouLou it's good to see you here!
   
LouLou   2/09 16:55   devilkitty no crying here!!
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:55   Master HidoiKaeru good. That, at least, she'll approve of.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:57   CountTom no she would say just let me fade away......and yell at me........but i cant do that
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 16:58   Actually.... I have an idea. Is anyone here able to access the source code of the site? If so you could literally add a tribute to her into the code. It wouldn't do anything (at least provided the person doing it doesn't screw anything else up) but she'll always be there in the very foundations
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 16:59   CountTom i can bring it to the Courtesans attention
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:00   Master HidoiKaeru maybe something to think about. I mean, it's not as though anyone would even SEE it unless they had that kind of access. But to those who know, I'm sure it'd be a nice thought
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:00   CountTom agreed
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:02   Greetings Ms Monster
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:02   Master HidoiKaeru hello
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:02   Ms Monster how are you today
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:03   Master HidoiKaeru not too bad. Yourself?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:03   Ms Monster have had better days for sure
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:04   Master HidoiKaeru that's too bad. I hope it gets better for you.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:05   since your here i may as well tell you what the announcement is for 8 pm.......we lost a very very dear member........ecectic is no longer physically among us
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:05   eclectic
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:06   Master HidoiKaeru I am very sorry to hear that. It's very sad news.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:07   so at 8pm hoping we get a large crowd to remember her and be able to say what they remember most as memorial ot her
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:09   Master HidoiKaeru that's lovely. I'll be here.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:09   Ms Monster please inform Serrian
   
Ms Monster   2/09 17:09   I will
   
LouLou   2/09 17:09   I’m
   
LouLou   2/09 17:10   Going to leave for a little I will be back though
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:10   LouLou thank you and be well
   
LouLou   2/09 17:10   Master HidoiKaeru *smiles* thankyou
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:12   devilkitty thats beautiful thank you but knowing eclectic she would giving us grief for doing this.....chuckles
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:13   Master HidoiKaeru oh well Sir i know i feel my ears burning
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:13   never one to let anyone publically know how much she appreciated it
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:16   well she secretly appreciate every sweet thing
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:16   May I please enter?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:17   Lionheartedsub you may
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:17   devilkitty the operative word being "secretly". She'd give you utter hell for even thinking about this if she knew
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:17   Master HidoiKaeru thank You Sir
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:17   CountTom oh Sir i really know what You meant by that
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:18   Lionheartedsub *looks over at the big lion*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:18   Hell, she'd be telling you to celebrate life, not mourn it's end
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:18   devilkitty hugs
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:19   Lionheartedsub hugs
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:21   mourn is showing that really cared for the person in my opinion..
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:23   *curls up on furs*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:24   devilkitty somehow I doubt she'd see it that way. She was always more of a celebration type regardless of the occasion
   
velvetgirl   2/09 17:25   CountTom very true... she would want a celebration
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:26   CountTom that's other reason why i liked to be around her Sir
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:31   velvetgirl you know she'd want everyone talking and laughing
   
velvetgirl   2/09 17:32   CountTom very much so Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:33   she would want her music and everyone barefoot and dancing and someone with the spoons
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:34   Amd possibly a cow
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:35   I remember she absolutely loved cows, especially the ones she'd see near her house
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:35   and Loki and chaos driving her mad
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:38   I always wondered about that. I mean, the name shapes the thing so giving the pair of them those monikers was basically asking for trouble
   
KnightProtector   2/09 17:39   *waves to chrissa
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:39   i think they earned those names
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:39   Also, they're cats. They'll drive a person mad purely because they're fluffy basrards
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:39   greetings chrissa
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:39   but she loved them dearly
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:40   Master HidoiKaeru again, they're cats. If people didn't love them, what are people even for?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:41   well i am not a cat person at all
   
kissa   2/09 17:41   
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:41   *frowns*
   
velvetgirl   2/09 17:41   Giggles yes!!!!
   
velvetgirl   2/09 17:42   That’s right kisses gove him the finger
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:42   *blinks*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:42   I knew that was coming
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:42   kissa i know i know and eclectic would have said samething to me
   
kissa   2/09 17:42   mhmm
   
KnightProtector   2/09 17:45   *slips kissa a cookie
   
kissa   2/09 17:47   ty
   
KnightProtector   2/09 17:48   kissa yw m'dear, always a sweetheart
   
kissa   2/09 17:48   I will be back later. I have a headache.
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:48   *puts out platters of cheese and crackers, veggies and various sweets
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:49   kissa ok dear girl
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 17:49   kissa take care
   
devilkitty   2/09 17:49   kissa take care
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:50   Bye kissa. It was good seeing you again
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:50   i am sure she will be back by 8
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:52   Probably. I don't think she'd miss this, but at the same time it must have hit her even harder than most
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:52   CountTom it has.......we have talked off and on all day since the wee hours of the morning
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:53   *Nodding
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:53   They were always close, I'm not surprised that they've grown closer still since the 321 exodus
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:55   since the exodus they did grow much closer
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:56   CountTom might i pm you?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 17:57   Greetings MistressMK
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 17:57   Master HidoiKaeru of course
   
MistressMK   2/09 17:57   hello Master HidoiKaeru
   
newtree   2/09 17:59   May i join please?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:00   newtree you may
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:00   greetings Jashine
   
newtree   2/09 18:00   Master HidoiKaeru thank You Sir
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:00   MistressMK hallo Ma'am
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:00   newtree hii
   
MistressMK   2/09 18:00   hello devilkitty, no Ma'am please
   
Jashine   2/09 18:00   Greetings all, hello Master HidoiKaeru !
   
KnightProtector   2/09 18:01   newtree *slips a cookie
   
newtree   2/09 18:01   devilkitty hi
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:01   MistressMK so sorry is Miss okay?
   
newtree   2/09 18:01   KnightProtector hello and thank You
   
MistressMK   2/09 18:01   not fond of Miss/Madam/Ma'am etc. devilkitty thanks, MK or Mistress MK is fine with me, thanks
   
MistressMK   2/09 18:02   too close to what I get called in vanilla life
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:04   MistressMK yes of course *smiles*
   
MistressMK   2/09 18:04   thanks devilkitty, appreciate it
   
velvetgirl   2/09 18:05   MistressMK greetings it has been awhile Mistress
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:05   MistressMK always i am sorry if i had made you feel uncomfortable
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:06   MistressMK greetings Ma'am
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 18:08   Lionheartedsub what did sje literally JUST say?
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:10   CountTom my apologies I was not watching the chat
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:11   *curls up on furs quietly*
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:14   this girl is very sorry but she needs to be sleeping
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:14   devilkitty hugs
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:14   devilkitty understandable
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:15   devilkitty go rest
   
newtree   2/09 18:15   devilkitty good night
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:15   Master HidoiKaeru thank you Sir
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:15   newtree night
   
devilkitty   2/09 18:16   Lionheartedsub hugs
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:24   *waves at CountTom*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 18:24   Evening Luvvie. I told you I'd be here.
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:25   Luvvie waves
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:25   *nods* left the beach early to make it back in time
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:25   Lionheartedsub hello
   
velvetgirl   2/09 18:26   Luvvie greetings
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:26   greetings Luvvie....nice to see you here
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:26   Master HidoiKaeru *nods* thank you for the invite
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:27   greetings little dragon
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:27   velvetgirl hello *smiles* how are you?
   
velvetgirl   2/09 18:27   Luvvie good how are you
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:28   velvetgirl im well thank you
   
little dragon   2/09 18:30   Master HidoiKaeru 👋 Sir
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:30   little dragon hugs
   
little dragon   2/09 18:32   Lionheartedsub hugs
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:41   Greetings Dashiel
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:41   and welcome
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:41   Dashiel *hugs*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 18:42   Hey Dash
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:42   Master HidoiKaeru hello
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:42   Luvvie Hey you  *hugs*
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:42   CountTom hello
   
esmay   2/09 18:43   Master HidoiKaeru Ms Monster, may i enter for a bit?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:43   esmay yes you may
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:43   esmay hugs
   
esmay   2/09 18:43   Master HidoiKaeru Thank you, Sir
   
esmay   2/09 18:43   Lionheartedsub Hello {{{hugs}}} how are you feeling?
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:44   esmay weak and slow, how are you?
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:44   good evening A/all .. may I enter please?
   
newtree   2/09 18:44   esmay (((hugs))) hello pretty lady
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:44   Hello there Lorelei
   
esmay   2/09 18:44   Lionheartedsub feel a bit off today, stomach started to swell again... no pain, so hoping it's nothing....
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:45   Dashiel hi.. Sir..
   
esmay   2/09 18:45   newtree newtree hello.  How are you?  {{{HUGS}}}
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:45   greetings Lorelei
   
esmay   2/09 18:45   Lorelei hello
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:45   Hello everyone
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:45   esmay sorry to hear that
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:45   Master HidoiKaeru greetings Sir.. good to see you
   
newtree   2/09 18:45   esmay good thanks
   
esmay   2/09 18:45   JamesWill68 good evening, how are you?
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:45   esmay hi hun
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:45   JamesWill68 greetings Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:45   Greetings JamesWill68
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:45   JamesWill68 *waves*
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:45   JamesWill68 good evening Sir *hugs*
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:45   Master HidoiKaeru Tal
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:45   Lorelei good to see you
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 18:46   Hey JamesWill68
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:46   JamesWill68 hey man
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:46   JamesWill68 jashi
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:46   Dashiel may i pm Sir?
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:46   Lorelei waves
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:46   Lorelei certainly
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:46   Luvvie hi hunni *hugs tight*
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:46   Lionheartedsub hello dear *waves*
   
esmay   2/09 18:46   Luvvie hello, how are you tonight?
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:46   Hello there esmay , Lionheartedsub , Luvvie and Lorelei . *hugs to those i know well enough and smiles to those i dont*
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:46   Dashiel thanks
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:47   CountTom , Dashiel good evening gentleman
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:47   esmay hello, im well thank you, and yourself?
   
esmay   2/09 18:47   Luvvie Luvvie Tired, but doing pretty good.
   
velvetgirl   2/09 18:47   JamesWill68 welcome back Sir
   
esmay   2/09 18:47   little dragon, hello.
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:47   esmay glad to hear it
   
little dragon   2/09 18:47   esmay 👋
   
esmay   2/09 18:47   Dashiel, hello, welcome to the Garden.
   
esmay   2/09 18:47   little dragon how are you?
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:48   velvetgirl good evening kajira *smiling*
   
little dragon   2/09 18:48   esmay been better
   
esmay   2/09 18:49   little dragon Not a good day?
   
velvetgirl   2/09 18:49   esmay waves lightly
   
esmay   2/09 18:50   velvetgirl *waves* hi *smiles*
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:51   CountTom how have you been?
   
little dragon   2/09 18:51   esmay eh
   
esmay   2/09 18:51   little dragon i'm sorry to hear that.
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:52   I hope i am allowed to...
   
Lorelei   2/09 18:52   

    
@CountTom-1537   2/09 18:52   JamesWill68 not too bad, and yourself? I just wish W/we'd all been reunited under happier circumstances
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:52   CountTom i agree 100%.
   
Luvvie   2/09 18:52   *nods* too true
   
Dashiel   2/09 18:54   esmay hello and thank you
   
JamesWill68   2/09 18:54   Seems that is the way many things happen unfortunately
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:55   hello He who cheats Death
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:56   TLSCP lol
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 18:56   TLSCP Miss greetings *bows*
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:56   greetings Lionheartedsub
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:56   hello esmay
   
esmay   2/09 18:56   TLSCP hello
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:56   hi Ms Monster
   
esmay   2/09 18:57   lol, i guess we said it at the same time. ;) TLSCP
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:57   giggles
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:59   I will wait a few more minutes before starting this
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 18:59   in case more arrive
   
little dragon   2/09 18:59   TLSCP hello Miss
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:59   little dragon hello
   
amalthea   2/09 18:59   Miss TLSCP may i enter
   
TLSCP   2/09 18:59   amalthea of course
   
Song Yung   2/09 18:59   amalthea please come in
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:00   *cuddles Song Yung *
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:00   I am glad to see a great turn out for eclectic_
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:00   Song Yung Ma'am greetings * bows*
   
little dragon   2/09 19:00   Song Yung hello Miss
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:00   *snuggles with TLSCP*
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:00   amalthea hugs
   
amalthea   2/09 19:00   TLSCP thank You Miss and hallo Miss Song Yung
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:00   *smiles at Lionheartedsub and little dragon* hello there
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:00   hello amalthea *pulls her into Us*
   
esmay   2/09 19:01   Song Yung hello
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:01   *rubs her eyes* may i enter please?
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:01   devilkitty you may
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:01   devilkitty of course you may
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:01   devilkitty yes please come in *hugs* nice post on eclectic_
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:01   Master HidoiKaeru thank you Sir
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:02   JamesWill68 thank you very much Sir
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:02   devilkitty very welcome
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:02   Song Yung *hugs Miss* thank You
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:02   ok may i say thank you to everyone for coming even tho not in the circumstances we may have wanted
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:03   we lost a very special member of the community and i know she touched each of you that had the pleasure of knowing her
   
Ms Monster   2/09 19:03   TLSCP hello. Sorry chat froze and I just realised now
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:03   eclectic was mama to many
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:04   and over the last several months she had slowly become ill more and moreso
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:05   kissa was notified officially and then i was that eclectic passed this last monday
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:06   many may not have known just how deeply she was involved in the bdsm community or that she was pagan and submissive and Free woman of Gor .....she was friend to all
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:06   Majordomo who is the room mama
   
Majordomo   2/09 19:06   eclectic_ was our beloved and deeply respected Room Mama and served at the pleasure of the site until her passing on August 26, 2019. She provided the initial investment donations for the chat, DJ services, common sense advice, parental head bashing, and ceaseless affection as needed. She will always remain the Room Mama of the Garden's chat and will be deeply missed.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:07   i know she would be upset we are making such a big deal of this for her but that was eclectic
   
Witch   2/09 19:08   G/greetings
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:08   

    
Lorelei   2/09 19:08   she would want us dance barefoot to her fav music
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:08   Witch Greetings and welcome
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:09   her favorite song
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 19:09   Lorelei I completely agree. She was never one for focusing on sorrow, she'd want every drop of joy
   
Witch   2/09 19:10   Thank you Master Hido. eclectic was a very dear friend of mine
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:10   her favorite way to greet was saying Merry Meet
   
Witch   2/09 19:10   I am still finding it hard to believe she is gone
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:11   *still hopes panth stalks in yelling at us for doing this*
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:11   so i have one last thing to say
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:11   Luvvie *hugs*
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:11   devilkitty *hugs*
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:11   on behalf of kissa and I keep her in your thoughts always
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:12   Luvvie she would be screaming right now... this is way too much attention
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:12   

    
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:12   and if you have any sort of picture or thoughts that remind you most of her.....please send them to Song Yung so we might create a living memorial to her
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:12   Song Yung *nods* i know... *chuckles*
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:12   she would ask us to be happy
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:12   In remberance of her playing many for us while others danced and frolicked
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:13   i open the floor to any who wish to say anything about eclectic
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:14   please feel free to express yourselves
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:15   
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:15   
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:15   my email contacts are within my profile and on site too
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:15   
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:16   Please send a picture and why that reminded you of eclectic and your chat name please and we will be adding a web page dedicated to her
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:16   

and her spoons
   
traylicious   2/09 19:17   May I enter please
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:17   we often talked about operas.. one day i was really down.. and she said.. oh no. .hun.. dont talk to me about this Dom.. talk about your favorite composer.. a Dom approaches and walkes away but Verdi will be for you for ever .. and now dear .. switch on your fav opera and share it with me *smiles sadly* i wil miss the wise way she talked to novices like me
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:18   She was always true to who she was and tried to help those that wanted to learn. I always enjoyed hearing of how she did bowling and the excitement she had when she had bowled a good game and even the same happiness when not so good, lol.
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:18   i don't know eclectic very well but i met her in 321 she was fabulous with everything in the music taste and giving life tips or just a shoulder. she will be missed. she had very good heart.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:18   i remember eclectic for yelling at me for doing things to show how much i appreciated her.....i will dearly miss her
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:19   She was so comfortable on her pillow, welcoming everyone to the room. Her joy and 'bright smiles' greetings.. her groundhog day nails.. She talked me through many ups and downs with my Dom.. patient as anything .. and gave me weekly updates on the cows down the lane..
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:19   
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:19   traylicious please enter
   
traylicious   2/09 19:19   Thank you Master HidoiKaeru Sir
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:20   She loved her pagan ways and honored them everyday that i knew her whether in song, prayer or just discussing with those in the room. She helped jia thriugh hard times when i wasnt part of her life and for that i can never say thanks enough to her .
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:21   she always had her nails painted for each and every holiday.......
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:21   For those that can id like to recommend burning a candle tonight so she can see them from her view all around us.
   
Ou812   2/09 19:22   Through alot of her kind words amd few not so kind she helped me find my way ..for that she will never be forgotten
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:22   i have been told a burning pyre will be lit on Mauritius for her
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:22   Master HidoiKaeru that is very good to hear. She would love that.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:23   more importantly i hope each will always hold her in their hearts and pass on her legacy to others
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:24   Oh she didnt hold back at all Ou812 and it is one of many things admirable about her ways.
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:24   traylicious please come in
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:24   *chuckles* how many times were we called CountTom? for panth? her protectiveness was unmatched. she loved fiercely and protected what she held dear.
   
traylicious   2/09 19:25   Thank you Miss Spicy
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:25   traylicious hugs
   
traylicious   2/09 19:26   Hello E/everyone
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:26   Luvvie oh ja.. she once pushed a so called Dom back from me.. dont think he ever recovered from it *smiles softly*
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:26   traylicious hello
   
traylicious   2/09 19:26   Hi Lionheartedsub hugs
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:26   traylicious hello there
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 19:26   Luvvie and you could guarantee it was at the worst times. Almost like she knew amd was tormenting us for shits and giggles (which is totally in character for her)
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:26   Lorelei *smiles* that I agree
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:27   CountTom *nodding* every time.
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:27   in fact I spent a good hour trying to find the spring pagan images for her nails and we finally found a set for her nail artist who ended up was busy and the other could not do it
   
Ou812   2/09 19:28   JamesWill68 nods ... she will be missed greatly
   
little dragon   2/09 19:28   She was one of the first to befriend me here help make me feel welcome and accepted not a outcast
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:28   

    
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:29   

    
@CountTom-1537   2/09 19:29   little dragon "she was one of the first to befriend me" probably goes for absolutely everyone she met.
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:30   *nods* truth
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:30   true
   
newtree   2/09 19:31   May i be excused please?
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:31   newtree of course
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:31   newtree you may
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:31   newtree be well
   
newtree   2/09 19:31   Master HidoiKaeru JamesWill68 thanks You Sirs
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:32   newtree take care
   
newtree   2/09 19:32   Lionheartedsub same to you devilkitty good night
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:32   so if anyone knows of others that were not here please let them know about our loss and how they can send to Song Yung their memories of her
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 19:33   What more is there to say? Everything she did was done with a passion, a flair, a simple love for life and for love itself that this world will never see agsin. She was wild, free, and absolutely unique in her spirot
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:33   CountTom indeed
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:33   CountTom *nods*
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:34   yes she was having a fit on behalf of a Dom who had been duped by 2 ladies. She thought he was subject to it again and I had to assure her they were not the same people as I was quite familiar with the pair who were taking advantages of Doms
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:34   and we would truly love to create a living memorial to her with words and pictures from everyone
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:34   Master HidoiKaeru i wanted to say the thing with the Room Mama is a very beautiful thing you all have done for her memory. She would love seeing that and knowing she will continue being a presence her when someone needs that extra push
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:34   She truly cared that Dom not be a victim again
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:35   Majordomo who is the room mama
   
Majordomo   2/09 19:35   eclectic_ was our beloved and deeply respected Room Mama and served at the pleasure of the site until her passing on August 26, 2019. She provided the initial investment donations for the chat, DJ services, common sense advice, parental head bashing, and ceaseless affection as needed. She will always remain the Room Mama of the Garden's chat and will be deeply missed.
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:35   Master HidoiKaeru
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:35   
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:36   devilkitty very nicely done
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:36   i have candles burning in a pentagon in her honor
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:36   shower of love or chasing us with her spoons for not using our good sense, Both meant to be the same lol
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:37   JamesWill68 thank you Sir
   
Song Yung   2/09 19:37   Master HidoiKaeru oh now you would get yelled at for that
   
devilkitty   2/09 19:37   Song Yung lol Miss
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:37   Song Yung that she would and did, lol
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:37   Song Yung of course and accept every word she yelled
   
Ou812   2/09 19:37   Song Yung nods
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:38   

    
Song Yung   2/09 19:38   yes panth be boxing your ears about now Master HidoiKaeru and you would just smile at her and ignore her, which she would growl more
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:38   Thank you all for coming tonight ....i only wish more had come
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:39   Master HidoiKaeru may i pm Sir?
   
Dashiel   2/09 19:39   Master HidoiKaeru thank you for hosting this
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:40   Lorelei you may
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:40   and i know kissa appreciates those who came
   
Luvvie   2/09 19:41   *nods* thank you for hosting this and allowing us to hear others experiences with eccles as well.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:41   and please those who have come.....please feel free to come back more often
   
JamesWill68   2/09 19:43   Master HidoiKaeru thank you for giving everyone a chance to say goodbye to eclectic_ in this way and share tears and memories for what she has meant to us.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:44   JamesWill68 no thanks necessary.......i am not typically one to show emotion but i have teared up more today than i can remember last
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:45   and it puts in perspective many things as eclectic and i were close in age
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 19:46   Master HidoiKaeru although you'd have had to drag her over hot coals before she'd admit it, I think eclectic would have been touched amd grateful you held this ceremony
   
Ou812   2/09 19:46   
   
Ou812   2/09 19:47   Master HidoiKaeru ty
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:48   Ou812 this is beautiful thank you
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:50   alas miles to go before I sleep
   
TLSCP   2/09 19:50   she will always hold a special place with Me
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:51   again i would ask all to send Song Yung things you most remember about this special lady so a living memorial can be made
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:51   Ou812 *smiles* thank you dear.. that was wonderful
   
Wryth   2/09 19:52   hello A/all ... Tal
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:52   Wryth Tal
   
Wryth   2/09 19:53   Tal Master HidoiKaeru
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:53   

    
devilkitty   2/09 19:53   Wryth hello Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:53   emily_kajira i apologize for not saying anything to you before now
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 19:54   Wryth Tal
   
Wryth   2/09 19:54   hello devilkitty
   
Wryth   2/09 19:54   Tal Lionheartedsub
   
emily_kajira   2/09 19:54   Master HidoiKaeru That's alright Master. i'm the least of importance at the moment, Master. *smiles gently*
   
Wryth   2/09 19:54   I don't mean to unterupt something special here
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:55   Wryth greetings Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:55   Wryth you are not......we are all remembering a very special lady whom we lost from the community
   
Wryth   2/09 19:56   hello Lorelei
   
Wryth   2/09 19:56   I am sorry for the loss A/all
   
Lorelei   2/09 19:57   i loved this song earlier but on 9/11 it was played for hours on all German radio stations and i once talked about it to her


    
Ms Monster   2/09 19:57   Master HidoiKaeru I have decided to paint a harden stone in memory of eclectic. When it is finished, I will post a photo. I'll likely send the physical stone to kissa to keep for all of us.
   
Ms Monster   2/09 19:57   *garden
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 19:58   Ms Monster thank you...i know eclectic would love that even is not admitting to it
   
Ms Monster   2/09 19:58   That does sound like her.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:02   thank you all again for coming to celebrate eclectic and her life
   
JamesWill68   2/09 20:05   Thank you once again Master HidoiKaeru safe travels all
   
Dashiel   2/09 20:05   Thanks again Master HidoiKaeru. Goodbye everyone.
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:07   Master HidoiKaeru thank you Sir it was really beautiful
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:07   i did nothing but try to bring people together
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:10   Master HidoiKaeru hosting an event like this is a difficult job. You should be proud it cane together so well
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:10   Ms Monster kissa has said if you send her the stone she will be sending it to eclectic brother from the Garden
   
Ms Monster   2/09 20:11   Okay. Will do.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:11   CountTom my only wish is that i could have found more people who knew her and gotten them here
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:13   and kissa apologizes for not being here but has a massive migraine and stressed and broken hearted over the events
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:13   Master HidoiKaeru it was short notice, and unfortunately people do have other commitments. Be satisfied with those who were able to make it
   
Ms Monster   2/09 20:13   Master HidoiKaeru that is understandable.
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:13   Master HidoiKaeru it's understable Sir
   
esmay   2/09 20:14   Master HidoiKaeru Song Yung Ms Monster, may i be excused?
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:14   i woke up on time too.
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:14   CountTom dont get me wrong i am happy that those who came did.....i am just not satisfied i could not locate more
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:14   esmay you may
   
esmay   2/09 20:15   Master HidoiKaeru Thank you, Sir.
   
Song Yung   2/09 20:15   esmay please take care
   
Luvvie   2/09 20:15   Thank you again *nodding* I'm going to take my leave.
   
Song Yung   2/09 20:15   we probably needed a couple days' warning
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:15   Luvvie be well and thank you
   
Song Yung   2/09 20:15   take care Luvvie
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:15   Luvvie see you *hugs*
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:16   Song Yung well i found out this morning and like the typical bull in a china shop wanted to get it put together
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:16   Master HidoiKaeru the Internet is a big place, who knows where a lot of the people who knew eclectic might be nkw? There are any number of sites they coukd have spread to and realistically you couldn't cover all of them
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:17   CountTom i know.....
   
Song Yung   2/09 20:18   I left NaughtyMD a note in case devilkitty forgot to tell him or did not realize they talked to each oher
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:18   Song Yung he knows...i spoke to him
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:18   Song Yung he knows i have told him Miss
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:18   Master HidoiKaeru you did the best you could with the time amd resources you had. Trust Me when I say that it was more than enough. I know you'd have been happier with a bigger turnout but no matter how many cane it STILL wouldn't be enough to satisfy you
   
Song Yung   2/09 20:18   thank you.
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 20:18   Sits on furs
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:19   CountTom your right because she was that dear to me
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:19   *puts a pillow between her hands and hugs*
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:20   Master HidoiKaeru exactly, so stop beating yourself up. Nothing would ever have been good enough so be realistic
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:21   CountTom chuckles...one of my many faults
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:22   Anyway I should be heading out too, it's ridiculously late now and I can hear her saying "why are you still up so late? Saying goodbye to be? Don't be ridiculous, get to bed!"
   
Lionheartedsub   2/09 20:22   CountTom be well Sir
   
Master HidoiKaeru   2/09 20:22   CountTom be well and thank you
   
devilkitty   2/09 20:22   CountTom sleep well Sir and good night
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:23   Thank Y/you for being such gracious hosts and please give My regards to kissa when she feels well enough to recieve them.
   
@CountTom-1537   2/09 20:25   Goodnight A/all, be safe and well, and may your lives be full of light and life

Lionheartedsub
Majordomo who is the room mama

Majordomo
eclectic_ was our beloved and deeply respected Room Mama and served at the pleasure of the site until her passing on August 26, 2019. She provided the initial investment donations for the chat, DJ services, common sense advice, parental head bashing, and ceaseless affection as needed. She will always remain the Room Mama of the Garden's chat and will be deeply missed

Song Yung
she was a big financial contributor to starting this site for us.

Song Yung
and not only that but family, dear friend, and ornery (Irish compliment)

sonnet
I am very sorry to hear that and my condolences to those who knew and cared about her

Jaxxy
May I enter please?

Master HidoiKaeru
Jaxxy you may

Jaxxy
Did I miss the celebration?

Jaxxy
Well not celebration but celebration of life

Jaxxy
Sorry i suck at this stuff *wrings my hands together*

KnightProtector
Jaxxy its quite alright

Master HidoiKaeru
Jaxxy dont be sorry.....

The Courtesan
Thank you all for joinng us to remember eclectic. If you wish to, there is a memorial thread on the forums. https://www.thebdsmgarden.com/forum/index.php?topic=760.0

Jaxxy
2/09 18:58
May I play a song please Master HidoiKaeru

Master HidoiKaeru
Jaxxy yes

Master HidoiKaeru
The Courtesan beautifully done m'lady

Jaxxy



Jaxxy
That was her favorite song

Master HidoiKaeru
and merry meet her favorite greeting

The Courtesan
Master HidoiKaeru, compliments aren't needed. There is no other way for us to honor her. She would appriciate donations to your local humane society, if you feel the need.

Jaxxy
Master HidoiKaeru thank You Sir for allowing me to play that. The Courtesan thank you as welll

The Courtesan
Jaxxy, you're right, and you're welcome.

kissa
How long was Witch here? That was eclectic's Lady.

Master HidoiKaeru
kissa for about 20 minutes

kissa
okay, thanks

KnightProtector
Jaxxy yw

Song Yung
thank you for your indulgence cary and many here who will be happy to help along your journeys, cary

Master HidoiKaeru
kissa oh my i didnt know that......she did seem pleased with the memorial

Song Yung
nor I. She did not say her affiliation with eclectic_

kissa
i invited her

kissa
She stated that she was a dear friend when she entered. i didn't mention she might be here, i think. i'm sorry.

Master HidoiKaeru
kissa well then i am happy that people spoke so fondly of eclectic and she got to see it

Jaxxy
Thats pretty awesome she was here

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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2019, 09:36:24 AM »
Some of the music played during our celebration














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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2019, 10:00:14 AM »
Some of the photos shared during the celebration.
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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2019, 10:01:30 AM »
photos shared
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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2019, 10:02:58 AM »
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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2019, 10:03:47 AM »
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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2019, 10:04:58 AM »
Spng Yung: Merry Meet my dear friend. The cosmos has gained another bright star. May you find peace among the universe radiating outwards into the lives you caused a ripple effect throughout this earth. Until another time, shall we merry meet after our own transition crossing over the bridge of eternal light
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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2019, 10:11:14 AM »
Many of you remember eclectic speaking about her dogs. These are just some of the Alaskan klee kai that she was such a strong proponant of.

Also, two more favorites of eclectic's.



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Re: Our late Room Mama, eclectic
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2019, 01:28:48 PM »


Gracious courtesy of Ms Monster who hand painted this wonderful dedication for our room mama, eclectic_
The notes are the actual score notes from Take Me Hone Country Roads, John Denver which was eclectic_'s first greeting when she came to the room and at times her sign-off until she joined us again.  Merry Meet
"You" is a reference to "you" the reader and not necessarily directed at "you" the person, but merely a indicative point of reference about the subject "you", which could mean "her", "him", "she", "his", "them", and/or "they" when reading "you" and on rare ocassions, even "me"